Get weekly updates on remote jobs, while we do comprehensive research on companies.
  1. 10

I came across this recent article talking about changes that some countries are making to their visa programs, to encourage remote workers - wanted to get the clan’s thoughts and experiences of using such programs?

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200824-the-new-residency-schemes-inviting-workers-abroad

While a visa that specifically allows remote working clears the air around the legality of working remotely from a different country, is there some fine print that might be getting overlooked?


  1.  


  2. 3

    Not directly in response to your remote work visas query, but just because they mentioned Estonia in this article - I have e-residency from Estonia acquired when they first launched the program and if the digital nomad experience is anything like that, then I’m a bit skeptical.

    Specifically, e-residency has turned out to be a disappointment, it seems more like a marketing tool for the Estonian government to present itself in a progressive light than actual practical way for people to do global business. The concept seemed great, particularly for digital nomads, remote workers. But it offers little actual remote possibilities as you have to establish various physical proofs to fully get your “Estonian” business off the ground. To this day, the e-residency online forums I visit are filled with new, confused members trying to figure out what exactly they can actually do with e-residency…

    Sorry for the rant, but to get to the point, if these remote work visas run on similar intentions, then I’d be wary of taking the plunge, particularly if the involved fees aren’t that cheap.

    1. 4

      Thanks for sharing your perspective Justin, it really helps! If you don’t mind clarifying, does the e-residency in Estonia allow (or intends to) some privileges beyond just the right to work for a foreign national? For example, does it permit gigs with businesses in Estonia in addition to working remotely for clients located abroad?

      1. 4

        It’s not even a right to work (at least physically), for example, it’s not a visa (but to be fair, they’re explicit on that). It’s simply a right to domicile a company in Estonia, which would at least be kind of useful if there’s a way to do it completely online. But in fact, there are many obligations that require you to physically be in the country to complete and manage on a regular basis.

        What it does enable you to do, if you end up successfully establishing a company there, is to do business in Estonia/in the EU as a fellow EU-based business. However, depending on where you are physically based, that location’s own rules and regulations, it may require even more reporting on your side. But for companies that are doing significant business in the EU, it can provide the basis to access some beneficial local resources and tax treatments.

        1. 3

          Thank you all for sharing. When I read news like these and the initial thrill of possibilities is gone, I often wonder what is exactly the point or advantage behind these visas versus just being there as a "tourist" working remotely. Good information here, thanks :)

          1. 3

            Just to clarify, my comments made above are pertaining to Estonia's older e-residency program.

            I have no experience applying for/working with any of these newer remote work & digital nomad visas that the OP originally mentioned.

            Having said that, there's always fine print and I too would be keen to see what peoples' experiences are with these newer visas. 😅

      2. 4

        This information can be very useful and perhaps a deciding factor for people planning to shift to a new country, especially Estonia.

        I think it absolutely necessary for digital nomads to connect and reach out to other remote workers to get a close view of the actual reality. Thanks, Justin for sharing your thoughts on this program.